Red Scharlach ([info]redscharlach) wrote,
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On the fifth day of Torchweek
Trivia fact of the day:

As you might imagine, this week has been a bit of a drain on my trivia supplies, so instead, here is a delightful medieval drawing of an elephant. If you're curious to know what the heck is meant to be happening in the picture, it's explained over here, but I think its charm speaks for itself even if you don't know the backstory.

And now Torchwood. Here are my thoughts on Children of Earth: Day Five:

  • Regular readers may remember that I posted a poll a couple of weeks ago, asking people to predict what Children Of Earth would be like. Of the available options, it is notable that a very popular choice was "pretty good until the ending, which will make me want to chuck the TV through the window".

    Tonight, my desire to chuck the TV through the window was tempered only by the weight of my telly, the modest size of the living room window, and the fact that there was a repeat of Heroes on the Sci-Fi Channel. So instead, I simply heaved a deep sigh and rolled my eyes as theatrically as possible, while repeating the mantra: "Is that the best you can do, Russell? Is that the best you can do?"

    He really never has been any good at endings, has he.

  • As far as the portrayal of Jack in this episode is concerned, I think a picture may be worth a thousand words.


    Exactly the same shape as a thingy!


    Blatant Freudian symbolism never lies, viewers. Jack really is a huge dick.

    Was the whole point of this episode to have everyone hate Jack's guts so much that they never want to see him again? What riled me most is that Jack is meant to be a Hero (TM), yet he didn't bloody DO anything. He just stood there passively, while the world made horrible decisions around him. I thought he might jump in and somehow channel the wave himself or something, but no. He just stood there with tears in his eyes, waiting for the script to offer him another option, one that would stop him from looking like an enormous tool, and it never came.

    The Doctor somehow would have found another solution, because that's the nature of his show. But as Gwen's speech to camera pointed out so blatantly, this ain't Doctor Who. Torchwood is supposed to be different, darker, with no happy endings. But an ending can be dark and unhappy and but still satisfying. This was not. And although the death of a child is Obviously Terrible, Stephen wasn't even a proper character, not one we really got to know or care about: he was just a sort of cypher -- for innocence, for family, for everything Jack fucks up whenever he has a chance. It was a form of insta-angst. Just add nosebleed.

    I thought the idea was supposed to be that Captain Jack was once a jerk, but the Doctor made him a better man. But over the years, he just keeps swinging back towards jerkdom with such tedious regularity that you wonder if he ever learned anything, or if every magical resurrection wipes his character development back to square one every time. This doesn't make for great drama. Your hero can learn a lesson, or fail to learn it, but Jack never WILL learn it, because the plot keeps requiring utter jerkdom. Is the Doctor meant to keep popping back every century or so to give him a lecture and keep him on the path of righteousness? Will Jack ever be any fun again? Has almost every iota of what made Jack an appealing character in the first place now been drained from him? Will we ever find out? And where did I put the gin bottle?

  • So no, Ianto did not reappear, influence anybody or anything (other than make his still-lovely sister sad). The only development was that Ianto had been lying about himself all along to hide his very ordinary background, which makes him sound even more ineptly lonely than he was before. Great. Now I'm even LESS cheerful.

  • The end of the Frobisher family? Good grief, that was the grimmest thing in an episode full of grim.

  • Kudos for the episode goes to Bridget, who really stepped up the mark when it counted. Shame that Evil Prime Minister is apparently about to be replaced by Evil Classist Cabinet Lady (© [info]sabra_n), who is just as bad as him, if not worse.

  • Sad that the admirable Lois mostly vanished from the plot because Bridget took on her spying role. It would have been nice to hear a hint about what happened to her. Maybe she and Gwen can set up a Heroic Intergalactic Ladies Detective Agency -- H.I.L.D.A. for short. Their first case: track down Myfanwy the pterodactyl while Rhys minds the baby. It could run and run...

  • I noted some potential for Plainly Evil Assassin Lady/Alice shipping, if anyone cares at this stage.

  • A small yay for PC Andy and his belated attempt to throw off the shackles of the oppressive state and fight the power. You go, man.

  • Rhys and Gwen remained sterling to the end, the sole note of constancy in a show that's otherwise been shaken to shreds. Bless 'em.

  • So the wrist-strap survives! And now it's been reloaded with a Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy app of its very own.

  • And so, it would seem that this is goodbye to Torchwood. I've been up, I've been down, I've been all points in between, and that's all in one week. I'm a bit peeved and disgruntled now, but in time I'll look back and remember the good bits. And the sexy bits. And the funny bits, even if they weren't all intentional.

    In the multifaceted words of that great Welsh philosopher Vinnie Jones, it's been emotional.


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[info]amythest_n_ice
2009-07-11 12:56 am UTC (link)
What bugs me the most is that it always seems to be Jack expected to make the decision about sacrificing children. A better plot idea would have been to have forced Gwen to make the choice, she was so high and mighty about Jasmine in the faeries episode (yes the others were all angry, but she was the worst, also, only one still breathing). Perhaps then she would have seen that there isn't always another way.

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[info]thinkzinc
2009-07-11 01:03 am UTC (link)
'The only development was that Ianto had been lying about himself all along to hide his very ordinary background, which makes him sound even more ineptly lonely than he was before. Great. Now I'm even LESS cheerful.'
I totally agree. The Debenhams line was almost too much. I kind of felt RTD was kicking the Ianto fans in the gut when they were already down on the ground sobbing their eyes out. Tsk.

Great screenshot btw :-)

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-11 02:33 pm UTC (link)
I felt that bit about Debenhams ws a cheap shot, and has had me angsting a lot.

How could Ianto, after the Cyberwoman, cannibals, exit wounds, Daleks, and all the other TW weirdness STILL have lied to Gwen and poss. Jack?

There's a big difference between being private and being a liar.

It didn't serve the plot, and it felt like RTD had stuck the knife in with Ianto's death and then twisted it with making Ianto still a liar. Are we now to doubt every single thing that Ianto has said?

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[info]san_valentine
2009-07-11 01:04 am UTC (link)
Yeah, although on the whole it was a good story, I was disappointed in how the whole Alien-Demanding-Children thing (you know, the central plot) was resolved.
Surely Jack could have revealed the truth about 1965 at any time in the last 40+ years. So why try and destroy him now, when you really need him and his team ?
Once Torchwood got themselves together and started spying, they just didn't seem to have any plans about what to actually do. They got evidence to bring the government down but did bugger all about the aliens, which surely were the immediate problem. Jack and Ianto went to confront 456 by saying 'no'. Jack made a pretty speech he'd learned from the doctor about humans fighting the 456, but failed to suggest any practical way in which humans might actually do that. Alien simpply releases a nasty virus (which Jack should have remembered is their weapon of choice). Panic, deaths, Ianto dies - Torchwood FAIL.
And no, things didn't improve much on the last day. The alien was banished but there was no need for the Jack angst-fest. Losing Ianto should have been enough.


And why did PC Andy take his body armour OFF before getting into a fight ?

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 11:33 am UTC (link)
And why did PC Andy take his body armour OFF before getting into a fight?

In order to disassociate himself with the fascists who were trying to take the kids away, I think. Otherwise he might have got beaten up by the mob himself.

Everything else you point out is true. Torchwood IS as useless an organization as everyone else always thought it was, apparently. Great moral, there.

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[info]sabra_n
2009-07-11 02:47 am UTC (link)
As far as I'm concerned, Jack has been an asshole on Torchwood from the start, so I really wasn't getting all the shock about him sacrificing children at some point in the past. Torchwood Jack is happy to torture people, gave up a child to fairies, and thinks it's funny to wipe people's memories. So I guess I thought he lost his Doctor-inspired better self long before this season came along.

I will say, however, that there is some resonance to the death of Stephen. Forty-something years ago, Jack took care to sacrifice kids he thought no one would care about. This time he was sacrificing perhaps the one child he cared most about and getting a dose of what it feels like from the other side.

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 09:23 pm UTC (link)
I know Jack has often been a dick in the past: I think that somewhere in my brain I was expecting him to be redeemed from eternal dickishness.

I have little to no idea why I thought this, however. Clearly I've got an inner streak of fluffy naivety that I try to hide!

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-11 10:28 pm UTC (link)
I've been struggling for most of the day to work out the motivation for Jack's actions in the first section of Ep 5.

Was it grief at failing? Failing to get the alien junkies to give up at the first sign of resistance? Failing to save Ianto/grief at losing Ianto? Having lost Ianto, to try and keep Gwen safe? He just seemed to give up and roll over. Cuffed and incarcerated, allowing the world to fall to rack and ruin.

Jack is a conman, a mercenary (what are Time Agents if not mercenaries), fond of big guns, shooting first and asking questions later, running in recklessly without a plan and hoping charisma and pheromones will make everything turn out ok. In the "Behind the scenes" footage, JB talks about having to revisit his character as it was at the start - the darker Jack. But Jack has charm and sex appeal, good humour, and we all love a bad boy, don't we? We were conned as much as everyone else he comes into contact. Alice was right, he's dangerous and you need to keep as far as possible from him.

Ep. 5 made Jack about as dark as possible - back to the Anti-Hero that we saw being redeemed.

However, Ianto had some kind of foreknowledge. "You think you're some kind of hero, but you're the biggest monster of them all!"

And, boy, was he made into a monster - that passive, let it happen, defeated monster.

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[info]scifinut
2009-07-11 04:43 am UTC (link)
My only comment is that in the span of SIX FUCKING EPISODES they've managed to kill off or get rid of every single major character IN the title agency except for one. What a great way to keep a Series Four on the books, guys. Serious fail, there.

I agree that Torchwood didn't act like Torchwood. They acted like a bunch of immature young adults who have been told that they're on the run. They didn't DO anything, and in the end they all paid for it with everything they had left.

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[info]anw
2009-07-11 06:19 am UTC (link)
I suspect they're not terribly interested in having a season four. I think this was a creative decision to clip this spur of the franchise off before the new broom comes in, pardon my mixed metaphors. I suspect Sarah Jane Adventures may also come to a close. Whether Moffat will bother with spin-offs of his own, I can't guess, but I suspect it's not big on his to-do list.

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[info]scifinut
2009-07-11 06:20 am UTC (link)
If SJA dies off as well, then I'm giving up on Eleven and quitting British TV altogether. Far too much hassle, and at this rate, far too much pain.

Nine, Ten, Donna, Ianto, and possibly Sarah. They're killing off EVERYONE I LOVE!!

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 11:18 am UTC (link)
If it's any consolation, I'm sure SJA will come to an end, but surely not with Sarah Jane actually dying. It's a children's programme, we don't make them THAT grim.

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-11 10:30 pm UTC (link)
Yep - take away the hub, the SUV and all their tech and they were like headless chickens. The only spark of "proper" Torchwood was on their mini crime spree, which fizzled out when they didn't come up with a better plan than storming the castle.

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[info]scifinut
2009-07-11 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Agreed. I think it was the loss of Tosh and Owen, but without them and the flashy tech, they're just idiots on the run from the government.

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[info]san_valentine
2009-07-11 11:53 pm UTC (link)
I can't understand why Torchwood were made to look so useless in this. These characters really should have been capable of formulating a coherent plan and solving the crisis. They're the *heroes* after all; it's what we expect. There may be errors and losses along the way, but they should still *do* something and succeed through their own efforts.

And just to add insult to injury - that moment when Govt Scientist casually informs Jack that they'd hacked into Torchwood's Super-Duper Sekrit Files yeara ago.
a) surely Torchwood's Sekrit files should be too hard to get into, and b) why did none of Torchwood's super geeks notice the hack ?
Both of which make Torchwood, this band of heroes we've been following for two seasons and a week, seem pretty pathetic. Gee thanks.

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[info]scifinut
2009-07-11 11:55 pm UTC (link)
I think RTD doesn't want to do this job anymore and he's quitting, but he's doing it in a way that pisses off as many people as possible.

Also, the Govt Scientist survived the poison in the air. Why couldn't Ianto?! Still pissed at that one.

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-12 12:10 am UTC (link)
RTD is now in the US of A, and on to projects new. The filming of CoE began in August last year, so over a year ago in terms of writing the scripts.

He's a writer, and DW was and TW is his projects (jury's out on TW Season 4 until all the ratings are in, but UK ratings were very healthy - biggest share of terrestrial for that time slot on all nights.) but as he's now in the US, i doubt he'll have a lot of input, though with the email he can still write from anywhere - a job's a job, and a paycheque is still a paycheque.

As most fanfic states "I don't own Torchwood. The BBC and RTD do." so that gives them the right to do what they want - whether we (the audience/fans) agree.

He's probably on to something new, and as harrowing and dissappointing CoE was, you can't deny that it was, for the most part, great telly. And that's what they pay him for.

Personally, I think that they may have alienated too many of the core fans. The ones who buy all the merchandise, attend the events, etc. And that core fanbase can make or break a series. Look what happened with Firefly.

I do wonder if anyone has had a word in John Barrowman's shell-like about fan reaction? He's due to be at a DVD signing event on the 17th in London and Cardiff, and I wonder if he'll get some flak. Hopefully people remember he's an actor, and contracturally bound not to spill the beans, so they get a little perspective and treat him with respect. He's not Jack Harkness, he's an actor/singer/entertainer who has feelings too.

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[info]anw
2009-07-11 06:10 am UTC (link)
"And the funny bits, even if they weren't all intentional."

I think the point at which a writer finds himself writing the line, "You're shooting up... from children?", is the point at which he should close his laptop and walk into the sea.

That whole, "This is how the world ends" lip-wobble to camera thing was ridiculous as well. In what sense is this how the world ends, Gwen? When was 'the end of the world' ever on the table? You can't just go recording 'if anyone should ever find this message' tapes every time you have a bad day at work.

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 11:26 am UTC (link)
I actually didn't mind the lip-wobble to camera. From Gwen's perspective at that time, civilization as we know it genuinely did seem to be falling to bits. What I didn't get was why we had to watch the exactly same speech again later. Was there some worry that we may have missed it the first time?

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[info]anw
2009-07-11 02:17 pm UTC (link)
But if it was the end of civilisation, wouldn't there have been, say, millions of other people around who had also lived through it? And hundreds of hours of news footage describing what had happened? And wouldn't Gwen still be alive to say what really happened, first hand? And did she actually say anything to the video camera that put any of this in context? It's the terible vanity of the video blogger! "Hi YouTube. So, it feels like the world is ending, and I just had a fight with my boyfriend..."

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[info]shadowbyrd
2009-07-11 02:50 pm UTC (link)
Having seen it in the trailers I assumed that was RTD omg!angst a la Rose's "this is the story of how I died".

The thing that pissed me off about that scene in context to the programme was that she's saying it in front of the kids. They knew things were bad, but there is no reason to panic them like that.

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[info]allemande
2009-07-12 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Exactly what I thought! It's completely ridiculous to try and make us believe that they'd continue "playing spies" after that speech...

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 09:24 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I'm not trying to explain it away as sensible. Of course it wasn't sensible. This is Torchwood. It just didn't fall into my top twenty most annoying things about this episode.

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-11 07:43 am UTC (link)
RIP Torchwood
22-Oct-2006 to 10-Jul-2009

I felt strangely at peace when the final credits started to roll. The anxiety I'd felt yesterday had changed. Did I get closure? Yes

Ianto is really dead
Jack is back to his old callous self, and buggering off to the stars.
Gwen and Rhys are left to cope and survive.

I feel as a whole, this miniseries was a great last hurrah, despite some humps and bumps.

If there is a series 4 then it'll probably be a completely new cast, which i'm not interested in. So I'll probably get the DVD to torture myself watching Ianto die, over and over again. I'll watch the extras. I'll probably buy the books due out in October. And then it'll probably all begin to fade away.

And I'll keep my eyes out for Eve and Gareth in other things - no need to keep my eyes out for Mr Barrowman, like Mylene Klass, he's on everything. Watch out for over-exposure John... Nothing as fickle as the british viewing public.

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[info]screwthepast
2009-07-11 09:26 am UTC (link)
I am honestly traumatised from watching last night's episode. I had horrible dreams all night long. I wonder if I have ever seen anything as horrifying as the scene with the Frobishers. And I have a lot of Jack hate right now. I do acknowledge than any TV episode that can have so much power over my emotions is excellent, however.

I loved PC Andy sticking it to the man, though!

And even though I hated what happened to her/Stephen, I also hated the fact that Alice seemed to be constantly smiling!

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[info]tardistenantsue
2009-07-11 11:02 am UTC (link)
I noticed that with Alice. Thank you for not letting me think I am crazy.

Andy was an unexpected bright spot that was very welcome indeed.

Oh, and after a night of horrible dreams that someone was coming for my own four kids, I get woken up by a cop-knock on my door. I scramble, bleary eyed (not even pausing to put on glasses) to the door and a man I don't know is standing there. Standing there holding out a one sheet pamphlet that reads "How can you survive the end of the world?" and then quietly turns when my hand instinctivly clamps down on it. Do you wanna know the words I said? No, you do not. And now the neighbors think I am bat shit crazy. I actually looked for a brick to throw at the car...

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[info]screwthepast
2009-07-11 11:08 am UTC (link)
Holy crap! Poor you, what a thing to wake up to!

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[info]tardistenantsue
2009-07-11 11:21 am UTC (link)
Let me now tell you how tightly I held my kids for the rest of the day. My arms are considerably longer than I thought...

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[info]ceindreadh
2009-07-11 05:20 pm UTC (link)
and then quietly turns when my hand instinctivly clamps down on it.
Sorry, I shouldn't be laughing at this, but damn if it didn't bring a wee smile to my face.

noticed that with Alice. Thank you for not letting me think I am crazy.

Alice to me came across as a bit of a snooty self righteous cow. I don't know if that was a deliberate attempt to show the difference between Jack's family and Ianto's, but I couldn't care less about her.

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[info]tardistenantsue
2009-07-11 07:07 pm UTC (link)
All I kept thinking was "I hope to hell that was shatterproof glass she was behind!" B/c *MY* ass would have been smashing through it trying to get to my kid - cuts be damned!

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 11:13 am UTC (link)
Argh yes, I was hugely irritated by Alice's permanent half-smile as well! Way to undermine her own big actress moment.

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[info]allemande
2009-07-12 04:32 pm UTC (link)
I noticed that about Alice too. It made me wonder if the actress was cast on the premise of being as bad at dramatic looks as JB...

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[info]neadods
2009-07-11 11:54 am UTC (link)
Here via T3.

The end of the Frobisher family? Good grief, that was the grimmest thing in an episode full of grim.

That was grim, but effective. It's the end of Stephen, shown onscreen, that still makes me feel dirty after a night's sleep, as if I'd looked for some scifi and rented a snuff flick. And then I was supposed to feel bad about *Jack's* pain?

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 12:52 pm UTC (link)
By the time Stephen's death happened, I think I'd disengaged to a sort of meta-level where all I could think was "Is this all the plot there is, then? Is this the actual plot??", while hoping for some sort of last-minute twist back into sanity that never occurred.

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[info]neadods
2009-07-11 05:31 pm UTC (link)
By the time we'd hit Stephen I realized there would be no return to sanity, and I'm still a but upset.

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[info]greyduck
2009-07-12 03:55 pm UTC (link)
This is EXACTLY the headspace we were in at that point too. Precisely.

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And so it begins...
[info]caledonius72
2009-07-11 12:11 pm UTC (link)
Just been taking a look at FanFiction.net.

There's a whole slew of stories on Jack's feelings with Iantos death (natch)

And a few re-writes for the ending of Ep. 5 - it seems RTD missed out writing a scene where Ianto/Jack wakes up and it's all been a dream...

...Bobby/Pam/Dallas/Shower.

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-11 12:48 pm UTC (link)
Just been taking a look at FanFiction.net.

Talk about gazing into the abyss. ;)

Dream sequence fix-it stories have never done it for me, but if I ever wake up and find a Ianto in my shower, I'd be willing to reconsider that.

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-11 02:39 pm UTC (link)
I know. I know. It's like a car crash. You want to look away but you can't.

Jumping the Shark is a warning to us all.

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[info]elethe
2009-07-11 12:14 pm UTC (link)
Through it all I was aware of just how emotionally unattached I was by it - if all the characters are just going to get killed anyway then there comes a point pretty early on you just think 'oh yeah, another one. Oh well, never mind'.

As with other things where millions of people are going to die/be sacrificed I really do care more about the millions than the one individual I am supposed to be caring about - so I guess if RTD was trying to make a point he made it. Then again all the individuals are theoretically equally important so it's bad if any/all of them die - but RTD was making such a hash of character development and so many misteps that it felt like he was focusing on entirely the wrong people.

I might feel differently if this was a real life scenario but fictionally speaking, this sucked.

I am not sure I am doing a good job of explaining myself here (but then, neither were the writers).

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-12 01:41 am UTC (link)
It's started...

http://www.saveiantojones.com

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[info]allemande
2009-07-12 04:29 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I agree. Totally bloody rubbish, that ending, and very depressing. Especially when one got one's hopes up all through a rather good mini-series.

English person said the purpose of the whole mini-series was obviously to destroy Torchwood, and I suppose it makes sense that Ianto had to die (that, or they would have had to come up with some reeeaalllly handwavy sci-fi that would have enabled him to be the father of Baby Boemina, whose birth is announced in The Long Game)... His death was really crap too, though (I hated the fact that he went back to that 'weak' sort of personality that totally submitted to Jack, and didn't even get a declaration of love back). It made him look even less like an independent person - even in his death, he was just something that made Jack feel differently about things.

Blergh, it's all so frustrating. Never mind the constant emphasis on the goodness of "common" people like Rhys and Ianto's brother-in-law, the whole thing still leaves one with a stale aftertaste. Yes, the government is full of calculating bastards. Yes, they have to make terrible decisions sometimes. Etc etc. But the purpose of shows like these should be to oppose a hero to them who may be flawed but who, at the end, saves the day...

And come on, what's with Stephen's death, did they have to show that? We get that it's cruel...

I noted some potential for Plainly Evil Assassin Lady/Alice shipping, if anyone cares at this stage.

So did I! The only slightly interesting thing in an episode full of DOOM.

I really liked the Frobisher character and hated the way his family had to go... But that, at least, made dramatic sense.

By the way, English person also said something amusing with reference to the drug thing: Apparently the producers were worried that the "10% of the children" wouldn't strike the viewers as immoral enough, so they had to put the drug thing on top of that. Overkill is dead, people! But apart from that, we both agreed that it was a good idea, if terribly creepy.

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-12 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Blergh, it's all so frustrating.

Yes indeed. I get the idea that they wanted to conclusively and definitively end the series, but this was the equivalent to taking it outside and painfully kicking it to death. And then wandering back out to hit it around the head with a baseball bat a few times until it stopped thrashing about. Ouch.

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[info]caledonius72
2009-07-12 11:03 pm UTC (link)
I agree, it felt a bit vicious, but also kind of destroy by numbers...

1. Kill off major and popular character in a useless way. tick
2. Transform major and popular character from a heroic participator to a broken bystander. tick
3. Make the raison d'etre of the show fail. tick

i think i need to give it a month or so, get some objectivity, and then have a bash about the flaws.

It was great telly though, i was on the edge of my seat sometimes. and some of the characters were great.

BUT (there's always a but, inc. Jack's butt) there were a lot of wasted opportunities.

Perhaps the idea is to start back with a Season 4 of new characters, but so many questions were raised by CoE, that the first couple of episodes of a potential Series 4 will have to answer them.

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[info]allemande
2009-07-14 01:53 pm UTC (link)
And now for something completely different, because TW is not worth being talked about more than this. :D

I just found a filk on my computer that you and I once started, but never finished. It was called "You can call me Snap"... ring a bell?

Hope to see you around one of these days!

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[info]redscharlach
2009-07-14 05:14 pm UTC (link)
That vaguely rings a bell. Am I right in thinking that it was Babb_Chronicles typo-inspired?

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[info]allemande
2009-07-15 12:30 am UTC (link)
If you write McGonigle, I'll review and say you're crap...

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[info]maliciouswraith
2009-07-13 03:17 pm UTC (link)
A fond farewell to a wonderful series.

Goodbye Suzy, Owen, Tosh and Ianto. Good luck Gwen adn Rhys. And Jack, I hope someone puts you in your place. You both deserve and need it.

This was possibly the saddest way to end a series. But I am not surprised. Uncle Russ does like to leave us wanting tissues.

RIP Torchwood. We love you.


PS - Maybe I am just an eternal optemist (or just a silly fangirl) but I was really hoping for a certain blue police box to pop up. Ah well, wistful thinking.

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